PHP or .Net ? - Page 4 - HTML Forums

afterburn · 08-11-2008, 03:41 PM

I simply love the idea of having a language debate..

Making statements about preference is purely bias rather than objective statements. PHP has is pluses over ASP; but you need to compare languages like JSP against ASP.net. The features are too many to even list in a single post; the subject of OOP alone can't be covered correctly in it.

Show the features of the language for comparison; as i stated the child5 needs to do some research whcih one runs more efficiently as he is way off his rocker to think a scripting language can even remotely come close to compiled code.

Making statements based on the fact of not knowing how to write the code in the first place is misguided as much as it is laughable. It may take a bit of time to code some of the extra features included in .net; however you are missing the point of those features and how much the actually help you as a developer change things like themes without some messy theme manager;

Why doesn't anyone attempt to create an application that pulls the data out and displays in table and lets see how much code it tags to make that work vs .net;

http://quickstarts.asp.net/QuickStar...ViewSimple.src

couldn't be any easier than that with less code or time to drag components from the tool bar.

<h1> · 08-11-2008, 06:12 PM

Dis argument is easy for me.
I did some ASP.NET when I was doing my C# course a couple years ago.
My preference does not come down to actual language: In all honesty, I found ASP.NET (using C#) a lot easier and guided than PHP.
I prefer PHP because I like to go to work scruffy, wearing a cap, unshaven, and work with interesting people, mostly old skool hippy nix geeks.
I chose this path as I prefer being in the new media/design world rather than corporate shmorporate. Bleh, what does money have to do with anything? If that is the only thing that counts, then go ASP.NET cos you will get a better job.
I dislike PHP as a language, but I love PHP because of the world around it, if that makes any sense.

peace!

Edit:

i had to add, these days i will only build web apps using a trusted php oop framework. PHP is powerful if used correctly, my advise: use a framework!

<h1> · 08-11-2008, 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnthonyDamasco

Websites made using php:
Youtube,
Facebook,
Wikipedia
yahoo
google

Youtube switched to python some time ago, and i'm pretty sure google has always been powered by python?

afterburn · 08-12-2008, 08:32 AM

I can say that most in the office do not like that i am able to skirt the rules; by wearing jeans during the week, hat etc.

but all the place that you go.

nkjskj · 08-24-2008, 05:23 AM

php is easy in learning & use.

But i like asp.net for programming.

Kuruk · 09-06-2008, 02:06 AM

Hi

Nice discussion. Dn't demotivate me guys.

I m a beginner in PHP.
But i vote for PHP.

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theboyholty · 06-20-2009, 10:49 AM

I voted dot net having coded in both disciplines previously.

I taught myself php, alongside html and css from a textboox and from online forums / tutorials and from that was able to code a shopping cart and a message board (forum) successfully. I did that all in my own time whilst working in other fields.

I am now employed as a trainee dot net developer and it is a million miles from php. It is SO much harder, and more involved. I tried learning from a textbook but when I started working on pro apps, it was under an n-tier architechture and nothing like the book. I could NEVER have taught myself from books & online resources in asp.net / vb.net to the same level as php. Instead I learn from other developers at work.

I think you can do a lot more in dot net. than php. The fact that more of todays powerful online apps seem to be aspx pages rather than php tells its own story. I'm sure someone will tell me that's not the case but it looks that way to me, maybe i'm just looking at it through a dot net boy's eyes.

ricardino · 07-21-2009, 06:35 AM

Basically i agree with the argument that php is probably easier to learn. The main reason i voted for asp is that we got taught C# on our degree which being a .net language lends itself to asp.net development. I have coded a bit in php, and ill say is that i often find myself wishing for asp features in php (GRIDVIEW!) but ive never found myself wishing for PHP features in asp. As for the programming argument php could hardly be called a proper language...

phatbass · 07-29-2009, 03:38 PM

This doesn't make much sense to me....

PHP is a LANGUAGE, .NET is a FRAMEWORK. What are we comparing here??

Plus, this depends on what you're using it for. If you're not building anything more complex than a database driven ecommerce site, than probably PHP is the way to go. The project I'm currently working on is a multi-tier enterprise application that consists of dozens of individual projects and databases. It is also being worked on by up to 20 developers simultaneously. Doing this with PHP would be possible, but MUCH harder.

The main benefit of PHP is that it's free and works on UNIX, which is also free. For return on investment, you cant beat FREE!
.NET licenses are expensive, so are licenses for Visual Studio, Windows Server, MS SQL, etc. The framework is intended for heavy commercial use with sizeable budgets.

The only major projects you will see written in PHP are the ones that came out of someones dorm room (such as Facebook) and even those are being ported over to sturdier frames such as Python, Ruby on Rails, etc. Google would be a good example.

Conclusion:
1. PHP - easy to learn, free, best for medium complexity projects
2. .NET - much more complex, supports multiple programming languages, very expensive, best utilized for enterprise-level projects.

lynxus · 08-25-2009, 03:21 PM

My 2c.

I prefer PHP mainly cos its an ass to get working on anything other than IIS and Windows no? ( i could be wrong )

Plus i feel php is a much nicer language.