<doctype> tags screwed up my menu!!!!! - Page 2 - HTML Forums

Leilani · 09-15-2006, 11:46 PM

so i guess i will keep the new doctype, though my site has worked fine with the abbreviated one I have been running:

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"><HTML>

but i will fix and add the new expanded one and switch to a css menu. are there any cool ones that are free and easy to program???

suggestions please!

PS. acskate, thanks for the compliments on the paint scheme, the sponsor worked really hard coming up with that one, I love it too.

Leilani · 09-15-2006, 11:48 PM

check out some of opencube's customers though:

fed ex, sony, mtv.... they all use their stuff

http://opencube.com

erisco · 09-15-2006, 11:54 PM

Now validate fed ex, sony, mtv... exactly.

HTML Code:

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">

That, doesn't mean squat to internet explorer. It still runs in quirks mode.

I provided a link for a suckerfish dropdown, probably your best option.

http://cssplay.co.uk/menus/index.html - some examples of CSS menus

Leilani · 09-16-2006, 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by erisco

Now validate fed ex, sony, mtv... exactly.

HTML Code:

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">

That, doesn't mean squat to internet explorer. It still runs in quirks mode.

I provided a link for a suckerfish dropdown, probably your best option.

http://cssplay.co.uk/menus/index.html - some examples of CSS menus

okay i found the one i want to use from cssplay:

http://cssplay.co.uk/menus/basic_dd.html

but now, i don't understand how to make this work on my site?

please explain like I am a kindergardener, thanks!!!

and keep in mind i write all my html by hand in notepad, no programs writing it for me..................

erisco · 09-16-2006, 05:47 PM

Leilani, we all understand by now you code by hand. So does the vast majourity of everyone around here. It isn't something we are not used to, it is what we are most used to.

Where exactly along the line were you not able to put the menu into your site? I cannot write a step by step guide, I haven't the time, but if you can identify what you were doing at the time, what problem you faced, and what the problem caused, I could help you out.

Kravvitz · 09-16-2006, 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leilani

okay i found the one i want to use from cssplay:

http://cssplay.co.uk/menus/basic_dd.html

That one uses a nasty hack to make it work in IE5-6/Win. It only validates because it uses conditional comments to only show the invalid nesting to IE5-6/Win. It also uses a <table> that would otherwise be unnecessary and is semantically incorrect.

I recommend the Suckerfish Menu System. The two variants at positioniseverything.net have some extra benefits not found in the other variants.
http://www.alistapart.com/articles/dropdowns/
http://www.alistapart.com/articles/horizdropdowns/
http://www.htmldog.com/articles/suckerfish/dropdowns/
http://www.alistapart.com/articles/hybrid/
http://www.csscreator.com/menu/multimenu.php
http://www.positioniseverything.net/css-flyout.html
http://www.positioniseverything.net/css-dropdowns.html
http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/dropdown/

These three articles explain how to style lists.
http://www.alistapart.com/articles/taminglists/
http://css.maxdesign.com.au/listutorial/
http://www.webreference.com/programming/css_lists/

And this one explains a fix for a common IE bug:
White space bug revisited--the definitive fix

erisco · 09-16-2006, 09:24 PM

Kravvitz, whilst I do agree that suckerfish dropdowns are cleaner, do you really think IE cares if it is sematically correct? The hack is specifically based for IE users, and that browser is a load of crap to begin with, so in the end, what is the difference? It validates for all the browsers that are actually standards-compliant.

Kravvitz · 09-16-2006, 11:09 PM

But the markup used in IE5-6 is not valid. The X/HTML Validator is only a tool. It's a computer program that has limitations.

I can't stop anyone from using that technique, but I would encourage anyone considering it to explore using a Suckerfish variant instead.

Pegasus · 09-17-2006, 01:26 AM

I'm working on getting a CSS-only menu going, one that only uses a bit of Javascript, but I'm having problems getting the darn thing to go horizontal. I didn't change *anything* to do with the layout and all it does is go vertical. <sigh>

I'll take another run at it in the morning.

Peg

Leilani · 09-18-2006, 02:57 PM

i'm back from the track! okay, i will pick a suckerfish drop down instead, thanks for sending those links.

ps. i made history on saturday becoming the first woman in the 45 year history of the bettenhausen classic to make the field-- it's a big race that's run outside of chicago once a year!

ascskate · 09-18-2006, 03:03 PM

congrats leilani thats awesome.

what positition did you finish?

ascskate

Pegasus · 09-18-2006, 03:15 PM

Congratulations, Leilani! Well done! To be honest, I was starting to get worried. I didn't get to see the race, so I wasn't sure if you were okay or not. *g* It's the "mom" in me.

Peg

Leilani · 09-18-2006, 03:16 PM

36 cars tried to make the race, I finished 15th of the 26 cars that raced. it was a feat because we were running a crate motor against built motors. basically that means I had 150 hp less than the other cars. We, by all accounts, should not have even been in that race. I was lucky and avoided some wrecks and came home with a decent finish. But it was a little like going to a sword fight with a butter knife.

Leilani · 09-18-2006, 03:19 PM

aww Peg you are sweet!

honestly though, these cars are built very safe these days, it is very rare to have any injuries and i have seen some awful wrecks! here are pictures from my worst wreck this season, the guys tire was about 6 inches from my head!

http://leilanimunter.com/pix-madison.htm

ascskate · 09-18-2006, 03:20 PM

thats great though, why did you have to use a crate motor? blow the other?

thats incredible though that you even qualified because it would deffffffffffff be hard to race with a crate engine when all the others had built ones. had you had a built motor, you wouldve dominated

how much are those cars making, hp wise? was it a late model race? ( i think i remember it saying that on your schedule)

ascskate