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alyssasdaddy · 08-18-2007, 12:46 AM

Hey ok we understand that you know alot about myspace could you stop using them in reference who cares that they run on IIS.

I know that most of your replys are aimed towards billy but i like to jump in to the middle of things. We do understand that you are so into asp that you can not open your eyes and get into something better. The developers at php even made it easy for the transition of people like you. You can use asp style tags in php coding. Its nice that developers also take care of the stubborn.

YAY! I head up page 3

BillyGalbreath · 08-18-2007, 12:49 AM

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5 kids at 23? Thats hard to beleive but i am 30 with 4.

I have 2 kids from two different mothers (ex's). My current wife has 3 kids (she just turned 27). So combined I have 5 kids, at the age of 23. Her kids are my kids and have been for almost 3 years now.

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and i was iterating what you stated. that it was all free cept what you charge for, which would me no Non-profit.

I only charge businesses (like Reef Industries) I have a day job, which gets the bills paid and keeps food in my kids stomach's. Everything else that I do I do for fun, but it pays off on its own without charging a dime.

afterburn · 08-18-2007, 12:54 AM

windows was never ahead in that area. Do some research on that. in hte corporate world though they are, in businesses where companies range from 5-1000 its more than common.

I am not close minded as you think, i am just posting to disolve the ideas that it can not be discredited.

For the record my windows servers are up, non-stop about 2 months, i am not worried as much about my up time as i am my security.

PSS - Dell also sells linux desktops.

alyssasdaddy · 08-18-2007, 12:59 AM

WOW i think of rabbits when i read this. well can't say much i have three kids. also i have a full time job. a couple cars. two cats. some scars from the past, no money. low insurance rates. I drink alot of coke and smoke about a pack a day.

Dell computers suck bad all of them. (desktops)as for them going Linux its because they were loosing business from corporations that prefer stability over windows. Dell tech support sux to

######### MESSAGE TO DELL #################

STOP OUTSOURCING TO INDIA YES I HAVE MY COMPUTER PLUGGED IN AND YES ITS ON I HAD PROBLEMS WITH NETWORK NOT POWER. and no i do not want a slurpee, no i will not have a good day you did not help me at all. Foxcon boards are cheap and they fail often.

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afterburn · 08-18-2007, 01:03 AM

I do not use asp, in the past 2 years and do not care to. I use .net, and i still think that *nix has some issues with its stablity there. Or its completiness of the libraries or that can't do things like call assemblies from inside of your SQL code.

i am referencing some rather large companies using it for stablity, builtin support for everything down to the DirectoryEntry in LDAP. All the way to Image support for PNG.

BillyGalbreath · 08-18-2007, 01:12 AM

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windows was never ahead in that area. Do some research on that. in hte corporate world though they are, in businesses where companies range from 5-1000 its more than common.

The Corporate world is starting the transition into Open Source Software (OSS) as well now. It's just recently started growing at an alarming rate. More and more businesses are moving to Linux, and beyond that. Hell, even my day job I am helping teach the "IT guy" parts of Linux. He tells me he eventually plans to move everything over to OSS. And this is a company of only about 300 employees. Major companies all over the world (including government agencies) are going OSS. It's not going to be too much longer for OSS to take over the corporate world as well.

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I am not close minded as you think, i am just posting to disolve the ideas that it can not be discredited.

You sure sound dead set again the idea of OSS to me.

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For the record my windows servers are up, non-stop about 2 months, i am not worried as much about my up time as i am my security.

If you are worried about security, then I suggest you make the move to Linux. Linux has been proven repeatedly to be more stable and secure than Windows 2000 and 2003 servers. Especially distros like Debian, Slackware, and Gentoo. BSD and Unix are also rock solid OS's, but are harder to "deal" with than Linux is. How can you honestly think Windows is more secure than *nix when 99% of the hackers/malicious programmers specifically code targeting Windows exploits (which has a lot more than *nix - not saying *nix doesn't have exploits, I'm just saying Windows has more of them, and *nix's are harder to take advantage of)? Seriously. Think for a minute...

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PSS - Dell also sells linux desktops.

Yes they do, but do they promote them? I think not - you have to settle for a different model of their computers. Find a Dell computer and try to get them to sale it to you with Linux on there. They will try every trick in the book to convince you that they can't do it. Why? The contract with Microsoft...

BillyGalbreath · 08-18-2007, 01:25 AM

And BTW - This thread/topic does not belong in the ASP/ASP.net forum... It clearly belongs in the Windows Administration forum located in the Server Administration category.

afterburn · 08-18-2007, 01:34 AM

whatever. its right on the dell website, i purchase from them 1-5 times a month for desktops to switches. and every time i log into my Premier account, i see them side by side with the windows.

its not OSS, its the extremist that i am against, i can use linux but choose to deploy windows. I have used many OOS projects but how long does it take for a project to mature in OSS? YEARS! Most sourceforge projects are abandoned, lack of planning and Money to feed those kids.

Actually windows' security has become a lot better than you think.

Thats because it covers 99% of all desktops. When Linux takes 4% of the desktops, then you will see a large increase in Ad-ware and spyware on those systems. but as long as they are currently not in the hands of every day users, it will not be a system that can compete against windows in terms of desktops. as servers goes, if you some how think that command lines on old DOS 6.22 is bringing you back to your own glory days you need to re-think what you are arguing for.

and it has no home cause as I stated before XP home can not have IIS on it and must hack the registry all over to get it to work. Think you need to double check that disk there pal.

http://www.15seconds.com/issue/020118.htm

alyssasdaddy · 08-18-2007, 01:45 AM

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Thats because it covers 99% of all desktops. When Linux takes 4% of the desktops, then you will see a large increase in Ad-ware and spyware on those systems. but as long as they are currently not in the hands of every day users, it will not be a system that can compete against windows in terms of desktops. as servers goes, if you some how think that command lines on old DOS 6.22 is bringing you back to your own glory days you need to re-think what you are arguing for.

Please do not go there. I hear this excuse as number 1 out of everyone and there mothers mouth. Ad-ware and spyware is probably created by linux users because of windows user's like you.

afterburn · 08-18-2007, 02:01 AM

were you dropped as a kid? Because the arguement is solid and you can't even attempt to poke holes into it.

Seen mac, went from 2% to 6%. Now have worms and viruses spreading in the wild. Been hacked in public, Iphone written just as poorly. Which has been blasted for more things than windows in recent memory (1 year+).

BillyGalbreath · 08-18-2007, 02:04 AM

The way Linux's backend is structured it is almost impossible to get infected with spyware/ad aware/virii. And even in that slim chance (most often from an idiot user) the threat is never severe enough to compromise the entire system. In fact, in worst case senario, only the user that managed to pick up the threat will be effected (even virii cannot effect outside this user).

Can Windows do this? No. One person picks up a spyware/adaware/virus then all other users on that computer (and sometimes the whole network) gets infected as well.

Windows is more secure my behind...

afterburn · 08-18-2007, 02:16 AM

whole networks? i doubt that. likely talking about an iloveyou or melissa or something, dude get over it.

manage, deploy and administrate a network of 75 people (35 in, 35 outside), not 1 virus has ever done that in the last 6 that i have been in the field. i have 6 2k3 servers and 35 desktops. Not a single issue on that type of scale.

i will tell you this, if a human created it, a human can break it. Windows or Linux.

BillyGalbreath · 08-18-2007, 02:26 AM

Obviously you aren't listening well enough to what I am trying to say. Maybe its because you have a job in the IT field, maybe its the moderator status bestowed upon you, hell maybe you just woke up on the wrong side of the bed today. One thing is for certain here though. This is going nowhere fast. You have distorted a simple suggestion of using Apache on XP Home in replace of IIS into a flaming war. You have gone above and beyond trying to bash every word I've written tonight, and you have even gone out of your way to try and knock me personally just to make me look bad (which is not common practice of moderators last I checked, I know - I am one...). I am tired of trying to defend myself and my simple suggestion. It's late. I'm sleepy. I've been working all day long. I've lost about 2 man hours total tonight from a project I've been working on (my fault too because of my short fuse). Feel free to use your Windows OS. Just don't mock me or my suggestions with irrelevancies that the OP was not concerned about. I am going to bed now.

mandelbrot · 08-18-2007, 04:26 AM

Come on, everyone. Isn't it time to agree to disagree?

Despite the fact that Linux and Apache may be this or that much more powerful, and the fact that I can simply install IIS and it runs straight away on my OS, the point of the matter is that the thread starter indicated what they wanted to know. Has anyone asked them whether they are able to install Apache?

Billy, you pointed this out as an option and afterburn, you pointed out your scepticisms. Can we leave it at that, please? Don't you think that this thread is well and truly put to bed?

Paul.

afterburn · 08-18-2007, 09:42 AM

my intent is not to personally attack you as you might seem, all i did was point out the flaws in everything you have stated thus far.

I am sorry that you have taken it that was, it surely wasnt my intent. I haven;t mocked on any of the subject matter. The only things offensive that wasn't polite was the mail ego which you justified it with everything you stated.

The only thing that i stated beyond that was intended as a joke because your free statements that lead to the image and just stated what it was.

mandelbrot is correct, the idea of bashing on system for the other is stupid. The point of my statements were to point out as i stated previously it can not be discredted.