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afterburn · 08-18-2007, 12:09 AM

even if i googled it proved the fact the statements were false. It was a typo and i didn't resort to opening the services.msc to verify. However i bet it is used for Windows updates just as i stated.

And for the RECORD. THere are references on HOW TO GET IIS on XP HOME However it isn't supported on HOME. THanks for playing tho

alyssasdaddy · 08-18-2007, 12:11 AM

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You are more niave to think that windows isn't stable, or equal to a Linux. If this wasn't the case, why would Dell,myspace and many others?

Microsoft incentives Money talks, Myspace is built on coldfusion which only runs on winblows i am sure if the owners of myspace were not influenced by bill gates and windows they would know where to fine the best stability,

The saying you pay for what you get in this case its not true, Because Linux is mostly freely distributed and it is better

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Any anti-microsoft people should actually check out some facts. Facts like how many actual requests those servers handle per-second. Like how fast the world has changed from java to ASP.net.

I am not anti-microsoft i am anti restarting during updates and new software loads, If i am running a web server and would have to update then restart well that drops my uptime percentage. Well i guess that would explain the more costly windows web host.

GURU is that what your called doesn't that change on level change from the amount of post you have posted. Just because you have the title don't take it to heart. Did you really read up on this subject or are you recalling your last experience with Apache 1.4 Upgrade 2.0 has more to offer.

BillyGalbreath · 08-18-2007, 12:12 AM

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Offensive or not, that is the only reason that anyone would type out everything when i can create website in IIS in 2 minutes, creating sub-applications with health monitoring. I have every bit of access to IIS from the ground up to the root application node in the IIS Metabase to configure it, name one thing that the MMC doens't give you access to.

Well I cannot name any off hand as I am not "into" IIS and do not personally know it that well. However, I can say from my early days as a n00b I did find apache to be easier to manage than IIS. IIS's settings were hidden in piles of dialogs/tabs, and I found apache's config files to be very simple and straight forward.

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Well your friends university are likely in the same boat most people are. They are mission critical servers, and they are not config'ed to auto-update. Yes windows does have this feature. Its called Windows BITS (Background Information Transfer Service). Used in everything from Updates to VSS - (Volume Shadow Service).

I know what auto-update and BITS (never haerd of VSS) and I still find them quite inferior to Debian's apt-get package manager.

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You are more niave to think that windows isn't stable, or equal to a Linux. If this wasn't the case, why would Dell,myspace and many others? http://asp.net/get-started/

Simple. they have paid contracts with Microsoft. Its not called the worlds greatest legal monopoly for nothing... *nix OS's do not create enough revenue to compete financially with Microsoft buying contracts with these major companies. To the Microsoft world its all about "making a profit".

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Any anti-microsoft people should actually check out some facts. Facts like how many actual requests those servers handle per-second. Like how fast the world has changed from java to ASP.net.

Linux has faster response times than Windows does. Linux can handle more requests at one time than Windows can. And Java has nothing to do with *nix (except Solaris). Linux has just as much Java as Windows does. Minimal. You are comparing apples to oranges here. Why not talk about the stability? I've not personally seen a Windows server last more than 8 months before it had to be rebooted. Linux I've seen last for years without a single reboot. What about virii or spyware? Don't want to mention that Linux doesnt get effected by virii* or spyware?

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Why in the world would you even attempt something so stupid as an OS in PHP, last i seen it doesn't access low level like the 7th interrupt harddrive access, or the 12th to handle keyboard events at its source. If PHP can do that, its a scripting language its AN logO(O) function of complexity, it wouldn't be able to handle the memory management for multi-threading, or look at the __stdcall for the ex register.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/phoenixz/ <- proof it exists sinc eyou don't believe me. And don't bash it. You're ASP can't even do this.

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Long story short you are both IN AN ASP/ASP.net (Which in case you werent aware are MS technologies) from. And you are arguing points that have no basis, nothing to back it up and no solid professional use of the technologies side by side.

Yes I knew that ASP/ASP.net is MS technology - thats one reason I am so against it. I may not have professional experience, but you can't ignore my responses, can you? My argument still holds water.

alyssasdaddy · 08-18-2007, 12:14 AM

Funny then maybe i have a broken disk because my XP home edition has it?

afterburn · 08-18-2007, 12:19 AM

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GURU is that what your called doesn't that change on level change from the amount of post you have posted. .

doesn't change on how much i post. i am a forum admin here. bestowed by Scoutt.

alyssasdaddy · 08-18-2007, 12:19 AM

I am done arguing this is not the special Olympics no one is going to win. You right i am right we are all right. With that said i my self will back down.

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THanks for playing tho

You seem to be taking this to heart, Have you ever heard the saying arguing over the internet is like competing in the special olympics...

Edit** PS you being forum admin does not mean IIS is better then apache..

prospero · 08-18-2007, 12:23 AM

I'm beginning to regret ever posting this topic.
I seem to have ruffled so may feathers.
PS My brain hurts...

afterburn · 08-18-2007, 12:23 AM

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Simple. they have paid contracts with Microsoft. Its not called the worlds greatest legal monopoly for nothing... *nix OS's do not create enough revenue to compete financially with Microsoft buying contracts with these major companies. To the Microsoft world its all about "making a profit".

i am sure Microsoft paid for the development of likely 2+ million lines of code and the man hours in the 20K range.... yeah right

No the worlds greatest monoploy is MLB and NFL.

I bet there is no NON-For-Profit sign on your door either. Bet it would be hardpressed to find those mountain-dew and taco-bell cravings.

alyssasdaddy · 08-18-2007, 12:27 AM

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I'm beginning to regret ever posting this topic.
I seem to have ruffled so may feathers.
PS My brain hurts...

Sorry dude I really do not think that question is going to be answered in a good manner, Everyone has there own opinion on this subject some just support MS more then Open Source and to the point that they have been brain washed into thinking that windows is superior to any other operating system as well as its components.

Edit: According to the groups you a moderator not an admin. I got mod at several sites just showing up everyday. heh i am super moderator at these sites know and i got that because they saw that i knew what i was talking about.

BillyGalbreath · 08-18-2007, 12:30 AM

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i am sure Microsoft paid for the development of likely 2+ million lines of code and the man hours in the 20K range.... yeah right

What does 2 million lines of code have to do with computer manufacturers?

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No the worlds greatest monoploy is MLB and NFL.

Funny, but I disagree. They don't pull the amount of revenue MS does. 999 out of 1000 people think Windows is the computer. Tell me thats not a monopoly...

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I bet there is no NON-For-Profit sign on your door either. Bet it would be hardpressed to find those mountain-dew and taco-bell cravings.

I have a day job - data entry for a company I hate. I built websites on my spare time. Some I charge for, others I dont. I also help everyone and anyone willing to learn anything from web development, to linux, to hardware, to networking. I don't charge anyone anything for those services. Most of the work I do is for free... If you do a good enough job, people repay you with donations. People give me kick ass hardware all the time, or they help me do housework, or even buy me a carton or two of smokes or take me out to Taco Bell or wherever. So don't tell me working for free doesn't pay off, I am living proof it does.

Anything else you want to try to shoot down on me?

afterburn · 08-18-2007, 12:37 AM

Who is talking about computer manufacturers? I stated a fact, about the development time and lines of code to make something like dell.com or myspace.com. and that i doubt that MS paid them to do it, considering that myspace was in .net on IIS long before it was a boom of hte internet or owned by google.

LOL on the whole living proof, picutre of 40 year old virgin comes to mind.

afterburn · 08-18-2007, 12:40 AM

PS did you even look at the development of the project?

http://sourceforge.net/projects/phoenixz/

its in ALPHA still, 3 developers trying to take on the task of ACL's DACL's, LDAP and everything else using a PHP front END not an OS, just to modify an EXISTING one's settings.

BillyGalbreath · 08-18-2007, 12:41 AM

I am 23 years old. I have 5 kids, and a wife. Who do you think you are?

afterburn · 08-18-2007, 12:45 AM

5 kids at 23? Thats hard to beleive but i am 30 with 4.

and i was iterating what you stated. that it was all free cept what you charge for, which would me no Non-profit.

BillyGalbreath · 08-18-2007, 12:45 AM

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Who is talking about computer manufacturers? I stated a fact, about the development time and lines of code to make something like dell.com or myspace.com. and that i doubt that MS paid them to do it, considering that myspace was in .net on IIS long before it was a boom of hte internet or owned by google.

I just saw "dell" when I read the original statement and thought of computer manufacturers selling computers with Windows preinstalled. My bad.

As for these types of websites... Who knows why they use the scripting languages they do. Perhaps they are just as close minded as you are? *shrugs*

You fail to take into account that *nix based OS's and Open Source software is now the most used for servers. Windows has taken a backseat in this area, and has been there for quite awhile now.