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Mukeboy
10-15-2005, 08:17 AM
Dear All,

I have been learning the never ending path of Web Design/Development for the last six months and sort of reached a fork in my learning path.

I currently have skills in the following: Illustrator, Photoshop, Freehand, Fireworks, Flash (little actionscript), HTML, XHTML, Javascript and CSS.

Although I will continue to aquire knowledge of the above I'm now looking for my first steps into Server Side Programming. This is where i turn to you the viewer and ask for your suggestions.

Kind Regards
Mukeboy

paim
10-15-2005, 09:33 AM
Damn..nice skillset you have there...I was at a similar stage (minus Illustrator, PS, Freehand, Fireworks, Flash and Javascript HAHA)...and I made a choice between C++ and PHP, and took PHP. Its easier to learn than I thought, so shouldn't be too hard...try it out, see if it suits you I guess...

Im doing PHP atm, and trying to consolidate on any PS skills I have :)

Mukeboy
10-15-2005, 09:51 AM
Cheers Paim,

Nice one, will go straight on into PHP.

Thanks
Mukeboy

darksidepuffin
10-15-2005, 11:09 AM
PHP is extremely easy to pick up, and has the most comprehensive online manual of any language to date... http://php.net -- best friend to both novice and expert PHP developers.

RysChwith
10-17-2005, 07:41 AM
Depends on where you intend to go from here. If you're looking to get a job in web programming, a lot of people are -- unfortunately, in my opinion -- looking for ASP and ASP.NET. If you're looking to do development for yourself, either as a hobby or running your own business, I'll third the PHP suggestion.

Rys

afterburn
10-17-2005, 12:48 PM
thats a bad opinion LOL Rys. Its not bad to be an ASP programmer, more so as PHP is still a scripting language comparing it to .net in the same statement does both languages an injustice. Besides that ASP is a company language, you will find CS degrees and people with 20 years experience using it. The issue is the language promotes abuse as an industry doesn't try to correct these kids, I would place an Advanced user of ASP/VBScript against a seasoned PHP programmer any day; as if a progammer is worth his salt language is not the issue but consistency in doing the job right.

RysChwith
10-18-2005, 07:27 AM
Just a matter of personal preference. I tend to prefer C-like languages, so go more for PHP than ASP. I have a particular dislike of .NET because of the explosion of files required to generate a .NET project. A friend of mine -- who is a much better programmer than myself -- pointed out that .NET has the advantage of compiling the code into DLLs, which makes it much harder to break or steal, and I definitely have to concede the point there. But it still bugs me.

Rys

Horus_Kol
10-18-2005, 07:38 AM
there are a lot of companies looking for PHP skills now, too... companies like Lufthansa, and so on...

it is all about personal preference - i chose PHP because it was the more accessible from a C++ background, and my experience of VB and vBscript was pretty negative.

Now, I use both - although I do find the online resources for ASP to be severely lacking when compared to PHP.

bendman
10-18-2005, 07:48 AM
I would say PHP for yourself, if only because it's easy to learn and really flexible. Also, someone correct me if I'm wrong, I think you need some rather expensive software to use ASP, whereas PHP is free.

I really couldn't say what businesses are looking for right now.

afterburn
10-18-2005, 08:01 AM
Now, I use both - although I do find the online resources for ASP to be severely lacking when compared to PHP.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/scripting

everything you need to know about the language is contained there, VBScript for client side scripting, the only things that change are that you have access to Request, Response and Application and Session objects.

afterburn
10-18-2005, 08:03 AM
I would say PHP for yourself, if only because it's easy to learn and really flexible. Also, someone correct me if I'm wrong, I think you need some rather expensive software to use ASP, whereas PHP is free.

I really couldn't say what businesses are looking for right now.

what XP Pro is that expensive? No no no, built into IIS that is installed on XP Pro, 2k, or 2k3

bendman
10-18-2005, 07:59 PM
ah ok, thanks afterburn :)