View Full Version : 800 x 600 resolution people please test this
Can somebody with the resolution of 800x600 go to:
http://www.gamingempires.com/fusion/javascript.cfm
And tell me what they see plesae?
Erikina
08-18-2004, 05:40 PM
Okay, I changed my screen resolution to 800x600 and here is what I see
Thanks! I couldn't test it out myself sicne i have to restart computer, for some reason it wouldn't work for me. Ok, so now I will edit it and then ask one more time later to see if it works once again.
I hope you aren't really going to do that on your site; considering around 50% of web users still use 800x600
No I will develop it further so that if it is 800x600 the content on the right will be placed on the bottom, I wouldn't have to do this if firefox wouldnt exist...stupid new low-fund browsers with no hr scrolling.
You're kidding, you would rather use IE? That software is absolutely horrible. The government has even reccomended you use a browser other than IE.
You should be developing in firefox, instead of IE, since firefox is standards compliant.
Erikina
08-18-2004, 06:01 PM
Originally posted by Josh
You're kidding, you would rather use IE? That software is absolutely horrible. The government has even reccomended you use a browser other than IE.
You should be developing in firefox, instead of IE, since firefox is standards compliant.
I'm a firefox user and the two things I don't like is, the fact they don't support scroll bar colours, and for some reason when I highlite text occasionaly it is inconsistant but when I try again it work fine.
Scrollbar colors? I would rather not let a site change my browser's appearance.
Not quite sure what you mean about the text highlighting.
Anyway, back on topic.
Who the hell said I use internet explorer? There are thouasands of other browsers out there, and trust me, I am using one of them that are not IE.
DONT ASSUME.
bendman
08-22-2004, 07:54 PM
lol, no need to get defensive. It's just your insulting what has become one of the most popular, functional, and fast browsers on the internet, just because it doesn't mess up code when you want it to
Internet explorer is the MOST popular browser in the world. I don't understand most functional either? What is there NOT functional in Netscape, IE, Opera, and other browsers? I don't know about the speed, I don't think a browser decides that either, it is upto your connection and computer to see if it loads a page fast or not.
How about you look at the statistics for this month and last month from w3schools.com.
http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp
As far as those statistics go, which should be the most accurate, I only see mozilla reaching 14% while IE reaching 70%. Oh wait, we forgot mozilla doesn't only have firefox but it has it's default browser as well...taht would be lower than 14% for firefox.
What is there to argue now?
Chao.
EDIT: As far as coding goes, it is not the browsers fault that you can't properly set up a table. As a matter of fact, that is why we have XHTML, Doctype Transitional, Strict, and validations.
Mozilla and firefox are essentially the same thing. Just different appearances.
IE is the most popular browser because simple, people don't know any better. If I went up to any of my relatives and asked them what a browser was, they wouldn't know. IE is the most widely used because it comes installed on windows.
Firefox and opera are the most standards compliant browsers out there, besides some linux browsers. Browsers other than that use the same engine as IE, which makes them just as bad as IE as far as rendering code goes. IE does a horrible job at that, it displays the code likes it thinks it should be; firefox(and opera as far as I know) display it like it is coded.
bendman
08-23-2004, 04:01 PM
yeah, IE is the most popular browser in the same way a horse and buggy is the most popular transportation for Amish people. If you only count people who know what the heck they are talking about, then Firefox and Opera are the most popular. Oh, and IE has problems with XHTML as well. As far as speed goes, a browser has a bigger impact than you may think. The browser is the thing rendering the page. If you open a picture in PSP then open the same picture in MSPaint, Paint will open it faster because it renders different and has a different and cleaner engine, without all the gadgets.
It's the most functional browser in that it doesn't mess up code and it renders faster.
I still code my pages to work on Internet Explorer since most people use that, even if another browser does render a code better, your page is supposed to work on every browser. I understand most your points except the ones about rendering the code correctly, a browser shouldn't render a code correctly, you should be able to code your site correctly yourself, if you fail to do that then don't blame it on the browser.
Anyway, I need 800x600 people to test this page now and tell me if the header/footer goes to the end of the page or if it stops somewhere in the middle.
http://www.gamingempires.com/gamereview.cfm
AaronCampbell
08-23-2004, 04:46 PM
Lola, the point is...if you code correctly, IE still might not display it correctly (considering that IE has decided that certain standards do not apply to them). I agree, that you should code a page that works in ALL browsers, but that doesn't make it any less annoying that IE supports CSS1 so poorly, or that it doesn't support CSS2. Things that could be REALLY useful (like min-width or max-height) are not supported. As for speed, that is NOT solely determined by connection or computer speed. Firefox will render code faster than IE (in an identical environment).
Also, bendman said that it was "one of the most popular" and on those stats that you gave a link to, it is in the #2 spot. I'd say that it could be considered ONE OF the top 2 browsers. No one has touched IE, but, like Josh said, IE comes packaged with Windows. Most people don't even realize you can change it.
I want to know if the banner/footer gets cut off in 800x600 browser:
http://www.gamingempires.com/gamereview.cfm
AaronCampbell
08-24-2004, 02:51 PM
No, they do not get cut off, but you can't see the "Newest Screenshot", "Reader Score", or "Related Games"
If you get Firefox (www.mozilla.org), and then get the Web-Developer Toolbar (http://texturizer.net/firefox/extensions/#webdeveloper) you can view your page at different resolutions without altering your resolution.
Hey, Aaron, can you take a screenshot please?
AaronCampbell
08-24-2004, 06:10 PM
here
Well the scrolling is ok, that is supposed to happen, but the banner gets cut off on the second screenshot. That should not happen.
Can you tell me what resolution your Display is set to? Also, is there any other tools you are using through Firefox that change the resolution? And can you also Hard-Refresh (Ctrl+F5) and tell me if the banner still keeps getting cut off like on the second screenshot.
Please answer these questions to help me make it work for everybody.
Thanks!
EDIT: Also did you have the browser window minimized or maximized when viewing the page?
AaronCampbell
08-25-2004, 11:45 AM
Ok, maybe you should just change your resolution to 800x600 while you test this.
The 2nd screenshot is scrolled to the right. That's why your banner is cut off.
My display was set to 1280x1024 when I took those screenshots. My FireFox was set to 800x600, which is the equivolent to having a maximized browser with a resolution of 800x600.
The banner will ALWAYS be cut off when you scroll right, unless you use a Javascript or something to make it scroll with the users screen.
Listen, I am advanced programmer, but I can't argue with development tools. I DO test my site across all resolutions. Although, there are people liek you, that are few out of the ordinary that have problems. This is not because the banner gets cut off on 800x600. If you look at the source, there IS javascript to prevent it. Your problem is that you are using developer tools.
Your firefox browser was set to 800x600, yet your "DISPLAY" is set to 1280x1024. YES, KEYWORD is "DISPLAY". Meaning the javascript detects what your "DISPLAY" is set to, and then sets the banner and footer accordingly, it doesn't detect what the FIREFOX ADD-ON is set to. Therefore, since your display is above 1024, it creates the banner to 100%, meaning if you use firefox's devleoper tool taht sets it to 800x600, it gets cut off. Although, if your "DISPLAY" would be set to 800x600, then the banner would NOT get cut off. I asked somebody to set their resolution display to 800x600, not to test it using a developer tool. Although, good find, but there is nothing I can do about it. If I would have to adjust my site to every single add-on and developer tool out there, it woudl take me years.
Nice find, thanks for the input.
I may be mistaken, but doesn't the javascript just check the screen size?
Well, I guess not becuase when I set the javascript to detect screen.width, it detected the resolution size. If you switch to 800x600 in your display ion contrpol panel, you will notice that the page changes accordingly...although, it should detect screen size....browser size....why doesn't it? I should search google. Thta would be alot better too.
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