Ok im not getting straight A's

[gildash2]

Ok im not getting straight A's, i got a B... so this is what my dad has done, he has created a schedule for me that i must follow everyday from when i get home from school to the minute i got to bed... take a look at this:
First 30 minutes home: snacks, put away shoes and backpack, organize yourself
next 2 hours: do homework- no interuptions
next hour: email.msn, read drudgereport.com(omg...)
next hour: free reading-history, math, philosophy
next hour and onwards- msn/tv/programming
consequences: failure to make all A's, i will lose tv, the key to my door, and my allowance for a month
now.. im all for the educating myself thing, but i think this is a little harsh, my logic tells me for the best but my heart is telling me that i want to chat all day~!!!! yea!!
what do you guys think about this schedule my dad(aka the slave driver) has made for me?

[agent002]

:eek:

are you kidding?

you get all my sympathy!

[Josh]

Holy... :eek:

I'd say 'a little harsh' is an understandment. I mean maybe something like this would be necessary if you were making C's and D's, but one B! =:O I make A's and B's and the occasional C. Currently I have one C, which is in geometry, purely for the reason that it is freaking hard! I do my work(well for the most part), it's just hard!

[agent002]

and still...

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

If my parents gave me such rules, I'd report them to the police! :eek:

[Josh]

Well I would like to if they did, but unfortunately there's nothing illegal about that :(

[agent002]

At least I would go far away from home...

[kevin]

I will let this thread continue as long as nobody gets the idea that saying things like "I would leave home" is to be taken seriously. Cool?

[Josh]

Heh, I know I wouldn't leave home. I just wouldn't listen to my parents. But I know my parents would never do something like that.

[ExtraDog]

Well, look at the bright side.. At least your punishment doesn't involve wet sponges and a car battery.

[Josh]

Originally posted by ExtraDog
Well, look at the bright side.. At least your punishment doesn't involve wet sponges and a car battery. I'm not even going to ask =:O

[Gregory]

I got erm... two B's

i got a C once in gym, don't ask.

and i thought my parents were tough... SHEESH

[gildash2]

i think the schedule is well balanced, just a little anal thats all, and for th emost part, it will help me ALOT with both my school and personal education.. just lookng on the bright side :S :'(

[agent002]

Ok Kevin, I would never leave home for that, it was sort of... um... bah. Gildash, it will probably help you with your education, but will you be happy??

[gildash2]

lol i love to learn, i teach my self all the time, i still got msn, email, tv, programming, and i can still partay on the weekends, but now its all under control, in porportion... before it was like way to much msn and way to little homework, now its under control... and if i get straight A's i get 500 reis as a prize from my parentsd(which is like 175-200 dollars i think) so yes i will be happy, but i still thin it will be hard to maintain and do, especially with how i love to chat and program, well.. you cant have your pudding if you dont eat your meat(pink floyd)

[althalus]

hmm i wish my parents were a bit more supportive when it comes to my schooling. not saying i'd like them to be *that* strict - i'm not that much a genious, and besides we have different grades from the ABC :D .. so mmm.. but i left school about.. say.. 3 years ago? after 10 years of school (where regular is 12) so that has screwed me over a bit, putting it lightly. i had my reasons for leaving, though, and i know that if i hadn't left, i'd never met the wonderful girl that lonesom day... so... in the end i guess it's not so bad.. but yeah.. too strict isn't good, but too lose isn't very good either...

[Gregory]

if my schedule was like that, i would tell my parents to f*** off and I'd run away for a few days, just to put things in perspective for them about how serious i am about them not controlling my life.

:D

[Ian]

Personally I commend your parents for taking the time to keep you disaplined. They can clearly see there is alot of potential in you and want you to be the best of your ability and this is their way of drawing it out of you. While you might like to rebel the system now, stick with it and I'm sure in a few years you will have achieved a position in life that you will not have got without this dedication. Eventually you will look back and appreciate what your parents did (especially when you get kids of your own).

Good on your Dad, appreciate the gift of having parents that have the time for you, that care and want their son to get somewhere in life.

If more parents took the time to care and disapline their children then there would be less people with Greg's attitude around!!

[Josh]

Well I agree with you to an extent, Ian. But I think the discipline that his dad is applying is a little harsh. I do agree that you do need parents that will punish you for bad grades, and encourage you to do better.

[Pegasus]

I somehow get the impression that we're not getting the whole story here. *g*

Two hours doing homework, 1 hr reading, 1 hour strict computer stuff, 1 hour either TV or computer 'free time'. That's about what Lizzy does, you know. Only she set the schedule, not me. I'd have cut out the computer time altogether if I thought she was spending more time goofing off than doing actual 'work'.

You're forced to spend 2 hours of your afternoon/evening doing homework. That's 30 minutes per subject if you have only 4 subjects to study, 15 minutes per subject if you have 8. Enough time to reread your notes from the day or answer some questions, I should think.

For what it's worth, I can't think of too many adults who know how to get through 2 hours of work without some kind of interruption, myself included. That kind of self-discipline will be a help to you later on in life - both in school and in the workplace.

At least give it a serious try for a while. Without grumbling. Maybe you could combine some of the stuff. Is there a part of your homework that might make a good programme? Maybe a history or math game? On-line Flash cards? Once you understand the subject, it'll be easier to figure out how to put together a programme to help teach it.

*lol* It's just a thought.

Peg

[Josh]

I don't really have a schedule. Almost every school day I have lacrosse practice, or a game. If it's a practice day I get home at 6, which normally means I do my homework at 7 ish. If my grades were bad and homework was a big factor of them being bad, I'm sure my parents would cut back computer time. But days I don't have practice or a game, I usually go running for 15 minutes, and then just get on the computer for the rest of the day until 6ish, to do my homework.

This semester I don't have much homework, because of easy classes. But next year I'm going to be loaded, so I might have to change that then.

[gildash2]

pegasus, i do combine programming and school, i make programs for the bio and chem departments in the school which they sometimes use in classes... but still, i dont techniqually get "Graded" on them... ntohing concrete... i typically have about 5 classes a day(ten in total spreaded out in two days, day a, and day b) and typically only have homework in 3 of them, and most of them only take 15-45 minutes.... im to read some of the books in my dads study for an hour, some computer time where i read a news website my dad likes.. and the rest is mostly free.. but yea, i will appreciate this in a few years :) but right now i would prefer 10 hours of pure computer :) mwuhahaha

[Pegasus]

*lol* So would Lizzy. More if she could arrange it, but... ;)

You get to read the books in your dad's study? Wow! Most of my dad's books, other than his westerns, were kept at my grandmother's place. And there were two rooms I was not allowed to go into - the Book Room and the Parlour. I think, if I could have had anything in the world, it would have been a chance to curl up on the couch and read one of my dad's books.

I found a copy of one of the books I remember seeing on the shelves, Hopalong Cassidy or something, in a second hand shop. When I curled up with the book once I got home, it felt like my dad was sitting there next to me, helping me with the hard words or explaining what the unfamiliar phrases meant. Oh, I know the words and the phrases now and my dad's been dead for 5 years, and that my dad and I never read this particular book together, but somehow, just knowing that he'd read and enjoyed the book made it a special one. *lol* No matter how corny the storyline.

I envy you that, you know. Being permitted to read your dad's books. *g* Even the dry old texts.

Peg

[putts]

I breezed through high school.
I never studied. Barely did homework (usually it would have to be graded in order for me to do it) My parents were always thrilled with my scores so never worried about my lack of devotion.

When I got to college, I lacked the dedication to my school that classes like Phys and Calculus warrant. I kept basically the same schedule I did in high school and soon found that my grades started reflecting that lack of effort.

To put it nicely....I've prolly pissed away at least $10,000 in classes because of my shortcomings in a scholastic work ethic. And that's not 10 G's of the parents' cash....oh no....that will eventually come out of my pocket.....when I finally finish up my schooling and the Federal Student Aid Program comes calling :eek:

Sufficed to say, I won't be satisfied with my kids not doing their homework independant of what they're getting for grades.

[dastuff]

Originally posted by Gregory
I got erm... two B's

i got a C once in gym, don't ask.

and i thought my parents were tough... SHEESH
I got a B in gym once... Everyone thought it was so unbelievable...

But I also got a gf out of it...

Now were not together, and all i'm left with is my B in gym...

[gildash2]

Now were not together, and all i'm left with is my B in gym..... ahh... love hurts my young grasshoper!
lol all the book sin the study are books that my dad has already read or written so yea, my dad doesnt mind that i use them(excpet for some books deticated to him in west point) and his old space invaders book that he got when he was five.. wow.. he wrote his name in it and his handwriting looked like my lefdt hand writing. Peg, im glad that your books broughtyou closer to your dad, i hope some time in the future, it will do the same to me, i can only hope to have the love that you have for your dad when my own passes away :) for right now, i can only hope for the best outcome of this situation, and i know it will be a good one...hmm... putts, the important thing is that you had fun in high school, but it will cost you future fun due to that lack of 10 g's :D (i would buy 20 thousand peices of bulbblegum:D mwuhaah) dont you guys think its interesting that in 1956,(or so my dad tells me) you could get a stick*or ball* of bubblegum for 1 cent? and and icecream cone for a nickle? my dads american and married my mom whose brazilian, i was born in newyork but lived most of my life in brazil, so yea, i consider myself brazilian :)

[Pegasus]

You know, after a while, it won't take you nearly as long to do the majority of your homework. Maybe once your grades pick up again, you can renegotiate the schedule. And, by doing a bit of studying every day, you'll have a lot more free time when it comes to exams. When everyone else is busy trying to cram everything into their brains at once, you'll still be doing only 15-45 minutes worth of studying and 2 hours of computer time. *g* That can be a really good feeling.

Peg

[gildash2]

yea. :) so we all agree that this is harsh, but a good thing then? good, we have come to an agreement then mwwuhahah

[Ninkasi]

Originally posted by putts
I breezed through high school.
I never studied. Barely did homework (usually it would have to be graded in order for me to do it) My parents were always thrilled with my scores so never worried about my lack of devotion.

When I got to college, I lacked the dedication to my school that classes like Phys and Calculus warrant. I kept basically the same schedule I did in high school and soon found that my grades started reflecting that lack of effort.

To put it nicely....I've prolly pissed away at least $10,000 in classes because of my shortcomings in a scholastic work ethic. And that's not 10 G's of the parents' cash....oh no....that will eventually come out of my pocket.....when I finally finish up my schooling and the Federal Student Aid Program comes calling :eek:

Sufficed to say, I won't be satisfied with my kids not doing their homework independant of what they're getting for grades.
That would be about the same with me. I try in the subjects I find intertesting, or that I like, and can't be bothered with the ones I don't, and usually get a D or C. I'm not phased. I always seem to bum out on the Exams thou... :rolleyes:

I think I'l ldo fine in the end, I guess I'm not that studious!

[Pegasus]

Originally posted by gildash2
yea. :) so we all agree that this is harsh, but a good thing then? good, we have come to an agreement then mwwuhahah Harsh? Not in the least. Rather lenient, I'd say. *g* But then, I'm a mom.

[gildash2]

lol well harsh in comparison to what im typically used to.. aka= ten hours of free computer time

[Pegasus]

*lol* Well, when you put it in that context, yeah. It's cruel, inhuman and a totally "mom/dad" type over-reaction to a little bitty drop in your marks. You can get those back any time. ;)

Peg

[bajanstar]

hi gildash, when i read the schedule ur dad prepared well, i dont think its that bad, plus u have to realize that ur dad wants best for u. Im completing my final yr at college and i know the time management is very important and believe me when u reach that stage, you are going to thank ur dad. Believe me i know what ur going through cause if i had my own way, i would party 24/7 cause ya know ur 18 once but i know eventually it would work out. I do think ur dad is a little of an eccentric but he doing what he thinks is best.

[Ninkasi]

A few years ago, my parents thought I was addicted to the computer.. just because I spent just about all afternoon on there. So they bet me that I couldn't stand a week without using the computer. No E-mails, No Surfing, nothing. I easily made the week, and they thought they were so smart to do it.. I just thought they were mental.

[gildash2]

my dad needs me to be perfect, just like he thought he was, and dont think that he is trying ot live his old dreams through me, cuz i will never amount to what he has... not that im saying that i wont be successful, but i wont be going to westpoint, webster, oxford and columbia(spelling on all of them lol) like he did, and i wont become a rhode scholar liek he did. In my house combined (dad and mom) we have 9 degrees.. i just dont think ill become what he wants me to be... but througyht he usage of this schedule, and tha pplication with it to my skills, i think that i will be able to go beyond my original oppertunities

[Pegasus]

Your dad is a very good wise teacher, Gildash. It didn't take you 10 years to hit on the entire purpose of the exercise, "to go beyond my original opportunities". It's not Life's end result that matters, you know, it's the courage and curiosity you show on the journey there.

I wonder how long it took your dad to learn that? ;)

Peg

[Kram]

You both make a good point, but how are we to know that Gildash's goal in life has nothing to do with what he studies so hard to learn? Maybe, just maybe, his purpose (which is a debate in itself), might be to become some kind of miracle doctor or something. Not saying thats what it will be, just trying to raise some kind of issue for debate :)

[Pegasus]

What we become is an "end result", Mark, the part that's not necessarily important. What's important is how we get there. One of the hardest lessons to learn these days is that if you want something, you have to go out and work for it.

What's the point in graduating high school with the highest marks of all if you can't say that you had inhumanly cruel parents who made you study two hours a day? What's the point in becoming the world's best programmer if you can't say 'I only had 2 hours a day to learn/practice programming'?

What's the point in becoming anything if you can't be proud of what you've done to get there?

Peg

[gildash2]

my dad did all of this with flyign colors and had some books deticated to him and wrote a few too.. i think he enjoyed getting there to.. i am enjoying highschool despite of what my conditions are, but you have to ocnsider the fact that, i might find it hard now, but when i get to the point i want to, rewards will be waiting, so its a take and give in result situation.. as in regards to my dads sucess, he did what he wanted and that great, that was his success, but like dog said, it could be my goal to become a miracle doctor, and when i reach that goal, it could be the same feeling of success that my dad felt, just with a different situation... its the sucess in what we want to do that makes us happy, not the level.. i will be happy as an end result, despite how bumpy the road to it will be, nothing in lif eis easy..my dad did exactly what he wanted to do, he made money, married a girl, had a few children, got a dog and a cat(nuclear family :)) and settled down and lived happily ever after, hopefully i will be able to do the same, just in a different situation