entimp
10-27-2002, 09:22 PM
Digging myself a hole as usual… for those who have followed various threads and are still watching you’ll see I still have the shovel in my grubby hands… I’m not quite yet 12 foot deep however.
Firstly let me repeat my congratulations to Kony. Well done, clean, crisp and to the point design. Hope to see some more from you in the near future.
I have thought long and hard about this post and feel I have chewed it over for far too long so I am going to shoot from the hip from this point in. I’m not sure if it is obviously clear but I withdrew my entry from the first web design contest. Giving way to Kony. Some of you may have made your own minds about my motives and some of you probably won’t care. So here, very briefly is why I withdrew and then a few comments about the forums.
Why! Well amongst the smaller and to me important reasons one stands out the most. I *****ed far too much about the how thing. Why did I *****? I wasn’t overly happy, initially about the vote process. Something that wasn’t in my hands to play with and overly influence. This doesn’t mean I (or you) can’t have a say, and I’m sure the mods would agree with this. It started of as a few comments that got a few (if not more) replies that I felt obliged to reply to. One thing led to another and, backed into a corner, the thread got longer and longer. The thread was to me informative and I have changed my mind on a few major issues. I took it a tad too far. Thus I felt it right, and still do, only fair to give way to Kony.
What I want to say more than anything regards the forums as a community. It may be seen that I view the contest as fixed or in some way corrupt and as a result some might think this of the forums as a whole. This could not be anything but further from the truth. I actually, believe this or not, have complete faith in Jason, Ian, Scoutt, Dr Web, KWJams et al in the guidance of this contest and forum. I’m close to 500 posts albeit argumentative, too the point and when Scoutt is about “late”. I intend another 500. Well what I am trying to say is: Would I keep an association with a community that I believe unfair and fixed? No Sir! I have been surfing the web since 1993 and wish that there was a site about like this when I first took my first dip in HTML. Not sucking up but this is the perfect resource for any web developer. So over eagerly I have been trying to get across what I felt was right, listen to others in the process… and have come round to a new way of thinking.
This leads me to a public and open apology of sorts. I know some would say an apology isn’t needed but I feel it does. However… not for putting in my two pennies… the guys (and gals) who moderate and run this forum do so in an unbelievably professional manner. And I, after having had this made clear to me by someone (who shall rename nameless), feel embarrassed about bringing this professionalism into question. You guys (and gals, again) do a grand job and I don’t believe for one minute that you would let anything be fixed. I hope no-one else would believe this also as a consequence of my actions. I am sorry if anyone got the idea that I believed and inferred that this was the case. I don’t believe this to be the case and never did. Once again, a very humble sorry.
I intend to stick around for a bit a give you a hard time still even if I have to stick my tail between my legs for a while.
Thus a final note just to reinforce the idea of how professional this site is and how if anything how professional that mods have been over the last few days dealing with my pedantic fits. Please do keep it up.
And again well done Kony.
Geoff.
AKA EntImp.
Firstly let me repeat my congratulations to Kony. Well done, clean, crisp and to the point design. Hope to see some more from you in the near future.
I have thought long and hard about this post and feel I have chewed it over for far too long so I am going to shoot from the hip from this point in. I’m not sure if it is obviously clear but I withdrew my entry from the first web design contest. Giving way to Kony. Some of you may have made your own minds about my motives and some of you probably won’t care. So here, very briefly is why I withdrew and then a few comments about the forums.
Why! Well amongst the smaller and to me important reasons one stands out the most. I *****ed far too much about the how thing. Why did I *****? I wasn’t overly happy, initially about the vote process. Something that wasn’t in my hands to play with and overly influence. This doesn’t mean I (or you) can’t have a say, and I’m sure the mods would agree with this. It started of as a few comments that got a few (if not more) replies that I felt obliged to reply to. One thing led to another and, backed into a corner, the thread got longer and longer. The thread was to me informative and I have changed my mind on a few major issues. I took it a tad too far. Thus I felt it right, and still do, only fair to give way to Kony.
What I want to say more than anything regards the forums as a community. It may be seen that I view the contest as fixed or in some way corrupt and as a result some might think this of the forums as a whole. This could not be anything but further from the truth. I actually, believe this or not, have complete faith in Jason, Ian, Scoutt, Dr Web, KWJams et al in the guidance of this contest and forum. I’m close to 500 posts albeit argumentative, too the point and when Scoutt is about “late”. I intend another 500. Well what I am trying to say is: Would I keep an association with a community that I believe unfair and fixed? No Sir! I have been surfing the web since 1993 and wish that there was a site about like this when I first took my first dip in HTML. Not sucking up but this is the perfect resource for any web developer. So over eagerly I have been trying to get across what I felt was right, listen to others in the process… and have come round to a new way of thinking.
This leads me to a public and open apology of sorts. I know some would say an apology isn’t needed but I feel it does. However… not for putting in my two pennies… the guys (and gals) who moderate and run this forum do so in an unbelievably professional manner. And I, after having had this made clear to me by someone (who shall rename nameless), feel embarrassed about bringing this professionalism into question. You guys (and gals, again) do a grand job and I don’t believe for one minute that you would let anything be fixed. I hope no-one else would believe this also as a consequence of my actions. I am sorry if anyone got the idea that I believed and inferred that this was the case. I don’t believe this to be the case and never did. Once again, a very humble sorry.
I intend to stick around for a bit a give you a hard time still even if I have to stick my tail between my legs for a while.
Thus a final note just to reinforce the idea of how professional this site is and how if anything how professional that mods have been over the last few days dealing with my pedantic fits. Please do keep it up.
And again well done Kony.
Geoff.
AKA EntImp.