Need advertisers

[rjlstar]

How do I get advertisers to advertise on my site and pay me? What sites do you guys know of that do that kind of stuff I see everywhere? Would anyone like to advertise on my site? (Link below)

[kevin]

Build a great website first, that is generating verifiable traffic in the thousands of hits per day, then you might have something advertisers would be willing to pay to advertise on. Your game website will generate no interest and even less traffic. Straight up.

[rjlstar]

What's wrong with my classic gaming website? A lot of people steal ROMs of old-school games.

[kevin]

Game websites are a dime a dozen. Yours is not going to stand out at all amongst the thousands of gaming websites. As it currently is, its too underwhelming to attract and hold the attention of the typical gamer and will ceratinly not attract any advertisers, who will want to see plenty of more bang for the bucks before they will spend to advertise on your website. And that silly no right-click reeks. That alone will be sufficient for advertisers to decline advertising on the website. Strictly amatuer, shows no signs of longevity, not bad for a 15 year old, but its not a serious piece of work.

Straight up:

1.) You launched this website way too soon
2.) the content is minimal
3.) its not well done
4.) the presentation is just so-so at best
5.) no on-site interactivity (everything is remotely hosted, forum-poll-chat)
6.) is not cross browser compatible
7.) stupid no right-click code
8.) stupid java script status bar message
9.) silly calendar thing that no one will find useful
10.) same content that can be found on thousands of better websites
11.) sub directory of a reseller hosting site
12.) no domain name
13.) no traffic
14.) I'll stop there

First websites are rarely good, this is no exception. You need to learn what really goes on behind the scenes of a succesfull website. Keep working on it, you got your cart way ahead of your horse, there is no way you will be able to sell advertising for this website, zero chance. Use this website as a learning tool and make the next one much better.

Nuff said.

[rjlstar]

Actually that was my second website. My first was at http://www.geocities.com/mister_jack_dawson. The URL was long and stupid and the layout sucked. So that website and the current one are just learning things. How many websites made does it take for average people to get an advertisable site?

[snfalcao]

Hmmm, at it takes is a good idea, lots of content, reliable information, good publishing, no silly things, and the opposite of everything Kevin said, I guess. ;)

1.) You launched this website way too soon - Make it more complete befor lanching it
2.) the content is minimal work to get more content
3.) its not well done make it well done :)
4.) the presentation is just so-so at best make the presentation good at least:)
5.) no on-site interactivity (everything is remotely hosted, forum-poll-chat) get on site interactivity :)
6.) is not cross browser compatible make it cross-browser compatible
7.) stupid no right-click code take it out (said thousand of times)
8.) stupid java script status bar message take it out!
9.) silly calendar thing that no one will find useful simpler news on start page are definately more professional
10.) same content that can be found on thousands of better websites You've chosen the wrong subject, like just everybody has made(at least tried making) a gaming website once in life
11.) sub directory of a reseller hosting site buy a domain
12.) no domain name buy a domain
13.) no traffic get traffic
14.) I'll stop there yea, me too :)

Anyways, games is definately not a good choice. There are really thousands of sites better. One of this days I got in this forum Hardmob.com.br and there were like 700 users online. You really have to make a difference if you plan to have sucess and get traffic. Do something different. Something no one else has done or will do -- except you really have a way of publishing your site like your father is the owner of a big tv channel or something.

Sorry for all the bad english, I'm in a hurry.

Ditto.


not bad for a 15-year old
Whats your problem with 15 year olds? Yea, I know, most of them should read more and watch less tv, but besides that... ;)

[kevin]

I don't know if there is an average, but in general for websites like yours, where you are the only person working on it, it can take some time, if ever, to make a site good enough to attract paying advertisers. And a gaming site is going to be up against some well financed and well staffed professional/corporate sites. For an indie like you to get noticed you need to come up with something really original or that for whatever reason just catches the eye of the public and gets traffic driven to it from articles and write ups and word of mouth, like hotornot.com, without spending thousands (or even millions) on advertising.

You have to be real honest with yourself, look at your website and think if you would pay to advertise on it. I don;t think so. You also have to give yourself time, 2 to 3 years on a website to get it going really good. Even then it may never get enough traffic to attract payed advertising, but other types of advertising might make it some money.

If you like classic games, then keep the website as a hobby and maybe eventually it will mature into something marketable. But that will take a sustained effort. Launching a website is really the easiest part. Keeping it fresh and up to date is the hardest part. Nothing worse than a website that never changes or is updated. On average, once a year it needs to totally redesigned to prevent it from becoming stale and boring.

[kevin]

[i]
Whats your problem with 15 year olds? Yea, I know, most of them should read more and watch less tv, but besides that... ;) [/B]


hehehe.... nothing against 15 year olds, I have one right now, two more that will be 15 in a few short years, and I've already raised 5 others past that age. :D

I know I look young and sexy in my avatar, but the angels got together and decided to make a dream come true when I was born, so there you have it.... :P

[snfalcao]

hotornot.com
LOL that is definately original!!
very very good. genious idea.

[kevin]

Originally posted by snfalcao
hotornot.com
LOL that is definately original!!
very very good. genious idea.

might go good on your webiste...... ;)

[Paul]

The Super Sexy Guru is right. I have spent 1 year on my site before I finally got my first check of advertising for $50. It has now been 3 years and I finally am getting offers for advertising in my directory but when most hear the rates (really good if you look into it) back out. Most people want to pay $1 for 1,000,000 hits.
Thanks,
Paul

[rjlstar]

I started my site that gaming site last week. I guess I should dump it. I'll just use it to learn from the experience, not really to make a real personal webpage.

There's no way I can afford a real domain. My yearly salery is $0. I've been rejected to many jobs.

There are not too many classic gaming sites. I've only encountered up-to-date ones mostly.

[kevin]

Originally posted by rjlstar
I started my site that gaming site last week. I guess I should dump it. I'll just use it to learn from the experience, not really to make a real personal webpage.

There's no way I can afford a real domain. My yearly salery is $0. I've been rejected to many jobs.

There are not too many classic gaming sites. I've only encountered up-to-date ones mostly.

well, you must have parents or uncles or aunts or older brothers or sisters, maybe one of them will stake you for a domain name and hosting, you can register names really cheaply at godaddy.com and hosting for as little as $8 per month for a site with good features. Maybe for a birthday present or Christmas present, so be a good boy! :D

[rjlstar]

I aint no begger. No one in my family is crazy enough to invest in something they have no part of and get no benefits from.

[snfalcao]

Originally posted by kevin


might go good on your webiste...... ;)

Now THAT is something for though. How come I didn't think of it? You're even more genious than the idea itself! Thanks! ;) I will put my mind into high gear to think on this.

Sorry for going off-topic! :o

[kevin]

Originally posted by rjlstar
I aint no begger. No one in my family is crazy enough to invest in something they have no part of and get no benefits from.

uhh.... OK. I don't know your family but that sounds pretty harsh. Not sure how you equate crazy with wanting to help a young person such as yourself, and a return on an investment comes in many forms besides money, but to each his/her own, its what makes the world go around and all that there kinda stuff.... :P

[Paul]

To be honest I really hate it when people say they want to make money with their site but won't spend $8 a year on a domain. Not having a domain looks unprofessional and just makes your site 100% times worse so advertisers won't waste their time. I also like the fact that most of these ad companies won't put banners on free hosts, this might bring the CPM rate higher in the future.
Thanks,
Paul

[rjlstar]

Man dudes. Free hosted sites can be good too. man! They can get high traffic tooo! I don't know why the advertisers have to judge a book by it's cover (Or in this instance: judging a website by its URL) Man, I can't afford no domain, period. I'm too poor. AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[creative666]

The sob story continues :D

[Michael]

Originally posted by rjlstar
Man dudes. Free hosted sites can be good too. man! They can get high traffic tooo! I don't know why the advertisers have to judge a book by it's cover (Or in this instance: judging a website by its URL) Man, I can't afford no domain, period. I'm too poor. AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

http://www.getfreedomain.biz
You get free domain and free hosting
*WARNING: You have to complete a lot of "assignment" assigned by the admin over there in order to get your domain and web site hosting. Such as join eBay and bid, join some club, refer friend to sign up...

I don't believe that you don't have money for a paid hosting. http://www.godaddy.com offers a domain for only $8.95 / year, in other word, you pay less than 3 cent /day for your domain...

[Paul]

Originally posted by rjlstar
Man dudes. Free hosted sites can be good too. man! They can get high traffic tooo! I don't know why the advertisers have to judge a book by it's cover (Or in this instance: judging a website by its URL) Man, I can't afford no domain, period. I'm too poor. AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Actually a lot (propably 99%) of free hosted sites don't get high traffic. Back when I was with hypermart and started receiving 1,000 hits a day they closed my site down saying I was taking up too many resources. This is not just hypermart and I think every host would do this.
Good Luck,
Paul

[-iNsOmNiAc-]

Holy sh!t, you're an animal! Eight kids!?

[kevin]

Originally posted by -iNsOmNiAc-
Holy sh!t, you're an animal! Eight kids!?

uhhh...excuse me? I don't see no smilies on the end of that post... but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and not take it wrong.

[-iNsOmNiAc-]

whoopsie!

@invasion@ @invasion@ @invasion@

[KWJams]

I do not know what part of the world you reside in but for the most part every Internet Service Provider offers 5-10mb's of webspace with every account.
So you should have some free hosting available already.
All you will need is to register your domain and set it up with your ISP.
My account offers 20mbs and it cost a one time set up fee of $25.00. My domain costs $14.75 per year(registered through my ISP)
You, or your parents are already paying monthly for it , so take advantage of it.

[rjlstar]

I use AT&T cable. I do not know where to register. And if it costs anything other than the monthly bill i'm paying them, then forget it!

[mikeyp]

it seems a little goofy to me, how you want to make money, but you are not willing to invest some money. Somone said it wa like 3 cents a day for a domain name. I could find at least $1 every day lying on the floor in my cafeteria at school. There has got to be some way that you can get some money for a website. I am young also (16), but I have found ways to make money. I mow lawns and I am able to get a whole lot of money for little to no effort (besides walking behind a mower). There has got to be some job that you can do.

[GREGO]

Dude your thinking like I used to about a year ago.

I would be walking home from school thinking:


What I thought--------------------------
"man ill have a really nice car as soon as I get my website up. If I get 10,000 hits a day and find a cpm service that offers just 1$ per cpm, ill make 10$ a day and have 3650$ in 1 year, If i run it a couple years ill have alot of money!!!!

All I have to do is submit my website to yahoo and google and I can get 10,000 hits a day easy.
----------------------------------------------

lmfao, man was I stupid.

Iv had it for 8 months now and im averagaging around 1200 page views a day, (around 200 - 230 visits a day) And man im amazed im doing that well. Its harder than you percieve it to be, believe me I know. Im making just enouph money off banners ads to pay for the website. it is my first website and as kevin siad there very rarely a success. I actually think mine is doing pretty good for being a first website thing.

I like to think I have some good content worth visiting the site for, I try to get it updated once a week. I get turned down for cpm services all the time! you dont get to charge advertisers and be your own publisher unless you get a domain and make it really damn good.

One day I hope to run a website that is really good and get alot of visits, who knows maybe ill hit that 10,000 hits a day landmark. but not any time soon.

Dude just use your websites as learning tools. Learn how to manage and run a website, get used to updating it alot, and work on designing. I know i have learned alot from my first website.

[KWJams]

Take a look at this---

http://home.att.net/faqs/faq02.html

[rjlstar]

10 MB. I laugh at thee.

[KWJams]

If you think that 10megs of free webspace is laughable --then that just shows how little you really know.

<--Note to self: don't waste any more time on rj

[Michael]

Originally posted by rjlstar
10 MB. I laugh at thee.

why???

what's fun about that?

I think 10 MB is enough for a personal web site!
I am not sure what kinds of web site type you have (a lot of download, picture gallery, or something else), but I visit your web site several times and I think your web site is about gaming

oh, by the way, I really want to suggest a web site to those who need very large space to store their files

http://www.250free.com
250 megs space
free
ftp
no file size limit

*warning:
250 megs monthly file transfer
2 banners ads (top and bottom), 2 pop-ups

[rjlstar]

good site, mike

[Rock]

rjlstar wrote:10 MB. I laugh at thee.
If ATT broadband offers the same web space to customers as ATT Worldnet, it is 10-mbytes per e-mail ID. Since each account can have up to 6 e-mail ID's, that is 60 MBytes per account, not 10.

One can author so the split isn't noticeable. My True Color Kodak Images (http://sqez.home.att.net/thumbs/Thumbnails.html) site actually uses 2 of my WorldNet web accounts.

BTW, even 10 "free" MBytes, with no 3rd-party advertising, is a pretty good deal.

[AsylumLife]

To make money on the web you don't nessicarily (or however you spell it) need to use a CPM (or however you spell it :)
I'm fairly new, but I've also already experimented with affliate programs. Just find a fair one and join. You put their add up and if you get hits you get cash. The advertiser doesn't decide whether or not to advertise: you do! By the way, but the banner somewhere noticable and don't beg people to look at it. If a poorer audience views your site, to a pay-per-view and not pay-per-click. I also had one going for a while where they'd credit you with money for a view and even more for a click. If you referred someone, you got a portion of the their earnings, almost like a free pyramid scheme. Little did I know, it wasn't real money, but credit towards their banner-exchange. Dissapointing for me at the time, but for someone that needs to advertise, very useful...


Sorry, but I don't remeber the URL...I'll look though

[ricd]

Hello I have a 'domain-catalog' website that only gets traffic when I send out 'spam' mail.

Yea I know its morally wrong, but there is no other way (with not much money) to advertise, apart from to extract emails from websites, like I have been doing.

Its too hard!

I submit my site to the 5 main search engines - every day!

I have 40 'TrafficZap' banners on 5 sites.

4 of these sites all lead to 'domain-catalog.com' (one way)

These other 4 sites are never advertised anywhere though, they dont even have .COM domain names.

I have to use the 'No right click' script on 4 of my catalogs pages (/com /net /org /other) but not the main page. This is to stop spammers believe it or not, the pages contain many many email addresses.

I have to admit that I had quite a bit of traffic starting on it when it was called 'Look.bz' but now its called the blatently obvious 'domain-catalog.com' no one is going on it again, its just like it was when the look.bz catalog started.

Whats the deal with that 'Zeus Robot' thing?! I have got it, and I am using it, but what is it trying to accomplish?! It gets up to 100 keywords, then goes into 'Auto' mode. This saves you clicking it every 2 seconds at least anyway. Once it is in auto mode, it just seems to find more keywords. It is meant to help you get reciprocal links, I think that is the end product of using the robot, but it is a time consuming way of doing it if it is to get reciprocal links.

I mean, why not email the site you want to put your link on, and cut out all the effort, time, and money of Zeus?!

Comments on my site as a commercial site would be appreciated!

So anyway er, see y'all.

[ricd]

Just wanna say my meta tags are all in order.

Arnt they?!

<HTML>
<TITLE>Domain Catalog</TITLE>
<HEAD>
<META NAME="keywords" CONTENT="domain catalog names advertise register registration">
<META NAME="description" CONTENT="Domain Catalog">
<META NAME="rating" CONTENT="General">
<META NAME="expires" CONTENT="never">
<META NAME="language" CONTENT="english">
<META NAME="charset" CONTENT="ISO-8859-1">
<META NAME="distribution" CONTENT="Global">
<META NAME="robots" CONTENT="INDEX,FOLLOW">
<META NAME="revisit-after" CONTENT="1 Day">
<META NAME="email" CONTENT="meta@domain-catalog.com">
<META NAME="author" CONTENT="Richard Daniel">
<META NAME="publisher" CONTENT="Domain-Catalog">
<META NAME="copyright" CONTENT="Copyright ©2003 - Domain-Catalog.com">
</HEAD>

<BODY>

What "Robots" what "Follow"?

It does annoy me how I have the name domain-catalog.com, but if you type 'domain catalog names advertise register registration' in on google, my site probably isnt even THERE! Never mind 'Top ten'

Why the hell should big companies cash in on the top of the lists?

If you have a website called 'hello.com', and someone types 'hello' into a search engine, they should get 'hello.com' then 'hello.net' then 'hello.org' and so on and so on. OK so this sounds quite silly.

Why cant there be a search engine where the domain extensions that have 'hello' in front of them come up in alphabetical order.

What about the poor guy who registered 'hello.com' lets say, recently, and he has NO CHANCE of getting traffic! Although he has an incredibly marketable domain name - tough - big sompanies cashed in, and got to the top of yahoo.google and those kind of engines.

ILL DO IT MYSELF THEN, AND CALL IT 'REALFIND.COM'

Yeah...YOU CAN THEN FIND WHAT YOU ARE ACTUALLY LOOKING FOR, NOT WHAT GETS RAMMED DOWN OUR THROATS BY MULTI BILLION DOLLAR CORPORATIONS BUYING THE SEARCH RESULTS WE ARE TYPING IN.

How are you meant to tolerate this?

By making a far simpler search engine that finds what you type in.

C ya.

[mady]

Hey RICD, I will give you an "A" for admitting your a spammer and then showing us how you spam. Of course 99% of the time all that does is get you banned. But you seem to have the spamming thing down.

[ricd]

I dont spam anymore. But then, I dont get any traffic because I dont spam anymore. Enough said really.