Possible Hotmail Virus

[Morph]

Recently i have been getting spanish e-mails from people i dont know. They have huge attachments and some are viruses and even if they aren't a virus they take up all your diskspace and get very very annoying. I just thought i would let you know if you started getting them and didn't know what they were

[montroze]

I get at least 30 over night from people I don't know. I never open any of them...they are trashed in 10 seconds. Never open an email from someone you dont know, also use the filters.

[Morph]

hotmail have done a fantastic job of warning people about them, theres no mention on hotmail.com of the virus or anything.

[creative666]

I think that I have been having hte same emails, is the file size 319K by any chance.

I have been getting 3 or 4 a day and they push my account to the limit every time.

I have heard from certain forums that these emails have originated from hotmail them selves, they are hoping that you will pay the £19.99 ($25 I think) to upgrade to have a larger inbox on the account. I block them everytime I get an email, but they keep coming back with a different name.


Of course this is just pure speculation. :cool:

[Toxicjellybaby]

Recently scanned my computer and found that them hotmail emails have left about 20 or so virus's in my computer. (my old one)
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Now i never opened any of the attachments and deleted all emails as soon as they arrived in my inbox.
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So i don't know what that was all about.
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I'd also end up getting spanish emails from friends, the strange thing was that my friends hadn't even sent them.
(And wouldn't be able to even if they wanted to!)

[scoutt]

just have to say something. what does this have to do with hotmail????

you goto hotmail and read your email. you HAVE to download the attachment to get it on your computer. it doesn't appear automatically.

if you open your hotmail accont with your favorite email program then I have no pity for you. serves you right. use the web to check that email.

[Toxicjellybaby]

in fact, i never did check my hotmail email any place but the web.

and secondly i never opened the emails, or their attatchments..but the virus did in fact come from them.(it shows it in the logs).

now whether you have to open the attatchments or not in most cases...this is obviously not the same case. dumbass.

[scoutt]

excuse me.... nothing can be downloaded to your computer WITHOUT it asking you to download. so YES you have to click on it to download it.

what logs?

dumbass huh? well why do you think that? you can open emial all day long on the net, IE or any other browser HAS TO TELL YOU IT IS DOWNLOADING, that is set as a security precaution. if it didn't tell you then you have it turned off (and that is your own fault and I dont feel sorry for you) or you clicked on it and said yes download this attachement.

the only virus that could possible be downloaded when you goto the net is bad javascript and that goes in your temporary interent files. and this has nothin to do with hotmail as you can get it anywhere.

if you didn't open the email or the attachement than it didn't come from hotmail. believe it or not hotmail scans for virus and they wouldn't let mail sit on their server that has a virus in it. M$ isn't that stupid. Yahoo being the sameway.

so look who is calling the kettle black. watch your own backyard before you start calling people names.

[Toxicjellybaby]

look...i really cannot be bothered to sit here and argue or reply to your next comment.

I was warning other people...because -believe it or fkn not-the virus's got on my computer.

all the possible lapses that would of allowed it to download were not even there.
before anything whatsoever downloads i'm asked.

and..as for the logs..it tells me on my anti-virus program exactly where the virus came from and when it arrived.
it came from hotmail, it came from those emails without me downloading ****.
end of.

for anyone interested in what the actual virus is circulating around hotmail it's the ts. worm.

[fredricknish]

Scoutt is right

This is what hotmail says below every attachment you get -

"Notice: Attachments are automatically scanned for viruses using McAfee"

Everytime you try to download a attachment from your hotmail inbox they scan the file for virus and let your know the result before you download it.

The only way of getting a known virus from hotmail attachment is if you ignore the warning of hotmail virus scan and download it.

[Toxicjellybaby]

lmao...im not even gonna bother.

i'll give it time for my -repeated- words to sink in.

[scoutt]

Originally posted by Toxicjellybaby
look...i really cannot be bothered to sit here and argue or reply to your next comment.

I was warning other people...because -believe it or fkn not-the virus's got on my computer.

all the possible lapses that would of allowed it to download were not even there.
before anything whatsoever downloads i'm asked.

and..as for the logs..it tells me on my anti-virus program exactly where the virus came from and when it arrived.
it came from hotmail, it came from those emails without me downloading ****.
end of.

for anyone interested in what the actual virus is circulating around hotmail it's the ts. worm.
prove it. show us the virus info. I search for ts.worm and found nothing.

nobody is denying you have a virus, we are denying it came from hotmail though. unless of course you downloaded the virus. and the reason you have it 20 times is becasue that is what happens when it spreads. you can download 1 virus and have it in your whole system when it spreads.

so unless you can back up your words, there is no hotmail virus.

oh and one other thing. if you delete the email and never view the attachement then how can it come from hotmail? you never viewed the email....

[cyberguy]

this is funny!!!

Do you guys have shares in hotmail or something, you're getting so agressive. I've experienced a similar problem as is being discussed here, i've been spending the last few days trying to figure it out and the best i can tell is that the email, attachment or not, downloaded or not, somehow opens up your computer to attack. It's very unusual, but it does have something to do with hotmail, though i doubt that hotmail is doing it intentionally. I can go days, even weeks without a virus and then as soon as i access my hotmail account, my frequency of pop-up hits and rises exponentially, and i get anywhere between 2 to fifteen different viruses within a day or two of accessing the account (not multiples of the same virus either, different viruses). Before you even suggest it, i only download attachments that i have requested from people, never attachments i am not expecting, and even then it is very infrequent. I believe it is related to the MSN Messenger service but i'm not sure how.

Leave the guy alone, he's on to something.

[scoutt]

if he is ont to something then prove it. show me a screen shot of the virus

[Rapture]

Hi I came into this Forum because I was doing research on a possible Hotmail virus.

Yes, my Hotmail has been doing strange things lately. Not just me but quite a few of my friends... and no, we're not connected to a big LAN server.

My pc had never been infected before until recently about 2 months back and I keep my McAffee AV updated very frequently. Neither do I have a habit of opening strange looking attachments, and yes I do know that Hotmail servers have Mcaffee AV built it.

But about 2 months ago I started receiving mails from strange people, each mail about 120-130k. When I open the mail, there's code in it. Now, I know what some of you will say.. that I opened a virus attachment like a idiot. But I must stress, it did not come as an attachment but was in the actual body of the email itself. I had just deleted 2 such mails before I stumbled into this forum, if you want proof, I will post it(not the full mail, just part of it) unless someone else beats me to it first. I get about 2-3 such mails each day. I think I'm lucky judging how others are getting 30+/day.

I did a AV scan about 3 days ago, and found WS32 virus. Tried to kill it but it remained resistant. I did some research and found that if your Windows is ME, WS32 will take residence in your Restore folder. AV cannot enter this folder to kill virii. So I had to delete everything in the Restore folder to kill it. My pc is clean but I'm still receiving such virus mails.

[Rapture]

Go to Mcaffee

Check out the W32/Sobig virus advisory

Read the 3rd paragraph that says.. "The virus is sent in a ZIP archive, allowing it to bypass extension blocking rules"

Bypass?? As in it now attaches itself to the body of the mail itself?

[scoutt]

the sobig virus is a ZIP file and you must unzip the file to run the virus. that is why it bypasses the virus scan. always save zip files and scan them before opening them. the sobig virus is non destructive, just a mass email worm.

it is not in the body of the email but it is an attachment.

[Rapture]

Okay, got a printscreen of the mail. This mail sizes in at 127k. Doens't come with any attachments so I didn't download anything. The sender is someone I don't know and I don't think he sent it. I'm not the only one who got this, a few of my buddies as well. I'm no AV expert, any comments?

Agreed that it might just be a mass mail virus now, but it scares me to think I might get infected just by opening a mail.

[scoutt]

that shows that your email program can't accept attachments or it was sent wrong. those funny characters is the zip file. see where it says application/octet-stream, tha tis teh zip file header.

what you opened is not a virus but an attempt at one.

[biluther]

I have the same issue here about how kay... knows that their virus' came from hotmail... and just what 'logs' was that registered in...

as a possibility here, when a hotmail attachment is a graphic, it gets embedded in the message body as well and clicking on it, inadvertantly or not, will do the trick...

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[jessiegirl1972]

I'm getting tons of e mails from friends which have virus's attached but my friends haven't sent them. This is bullsh*t. I don't know what to open or not anymore. They are coming to my account which I don't use for junk either...it's severly p*ssing me off. When I try to block the senders, they still keep coming! Can I prevent this in any way?

Please do not give me any smart a$$ answers either.

Thank you.:D

[scoutt]

wellcome to the world of worms.

see you guys just dont understand. when a virus sends you something you think it is from your friends, but it really isn't. the virus spoofs the return email addy from somebody else. that way you don't know where it is coming from.

either don't use hotmail or get a better virus scanner.

[magma]

I noticed some disbelief coming from some about idea of individuals getting viruses when opening their hotmail account- NOT opening attachments or downloading any files. Well, in the future please listen to others! True 90% of the time from what people are used to
- has to open attachments or download files- BUT NOT ALWAYS- PEOPLE ASSUMED that THE SERVER WAS CLEAN ---- IT WAS NOT!! (YES- The Servers had Malware filters BUT SOMEONE WAS REALLY CLEVER and got one over on Microsoft!!
SO all those people that were stating that their computers were not infected and that they did not open or download files were correct- hotmail was spreading virus and they were compromised- today they turned off the server in question (see NEWS)

"Microsoft said it needed the time to fix the security vulnerability, which it learned about at 3:30 p.m. PDT Tuesday (July-27-2007). "We chose to disable Hotmail servers for a short amount of time in the interest of user security," a spokeswoman said"(WIRED)

[Pegasus]

Magma, this thread is 3 years old. I know large organizations such as Hotmail can be slow, but I don't think they're *that* slow.

Peg