FTPs

[Jason]

What kind of FTP does everyone here use? I've heard complaints from 2 guides here that their FTPs can't handle a normal sized load. My WSFTP has always been there for me with no problems. What are your woes?

I've got a gripe about my first-ever ftp, cuteftp. I don't know if this was because I didnt register it, but it did not seem to have the ability to chmod files, now that's just weak.

Has anyone else had success with anything other than wsftp?

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Jason M. DesRoches
Co-Founder / Business Development
Big Resources Network
jason@123webmaster.com
ICQ: 17947522

[This message has been edited by Jason (edited 07-01-2000).]

[jalouda]

i have only ever tried cute ftp and ws ftp. i couldn't get cute ftp to work at all when i downloaded it, but i have found wsftp to be brilliant. it is easy to use and reliable. once i tried it i was determined to never use browser uploading again!
ws ftp rules http://talkboard.123webmaster.com/ubbhtml/smile.gif

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[Ian]

I take it you won't be getting an account at httpcity then Jal http://talkboard.123webmaster.com/ubbhtml/smile.gif.
I now use 2 ftp programs, I mostly use ACEFTP, it a good program for standard use and has a good layout unlike other ftp managers, it is quick and easy to use and doesn't give much trouble. The only troubles I have had with it, seems to be more from lack of knowing what it is capible of and the only other problem with it is that because of its GUI, it locks up when trying to render an online directory that has to many files in it. At what limit is can no longer handle it, I am not sure, but it can't view the httpcity dir that has over 5000 files in it http://talkboard.123webmaster.com/ubbhtml/smile.gif, so I think the average user is pretty safe there.
As a result I have downloaded ws ftp, and it handles it fine as it is less graphical, however I think it is an ugly boring looking program.
Summery:: One works well but looks bad, the other looks good is easy to use but can't hack the big stuff, so I have them both installed. http://talkboard.123webmaster.com/ubbhtml/smile.gif

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Ian
Web Development - BIG Resources Inc
ian@123webmaster.com
BIG Resources.com (http://www.bigresources.com)
ICQ: 25828668

[ivonnieda]

Dear Jason,

Since it seems that we use a varity
of FTP clients, what do you think of doing a compleate rundown of say the top ten FTPs? This information, though it night sound basic , in my opinon would be of great use to beginners and pros alike.

Those of you who would be intrested in something like this please give us your
thoughts. http://talkboard.123webmaster.com/ubbhtml/smile.gif



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Isaac
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Big Resources Network
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ICQ# 71401549

[Jason]

Isaac,

Sounds good, it'd be interesting to compare them all. However I have nothing but ASFTP myself. Does anyone have a suggestion on how to get this off the ground? Should we break it up, and everyone take an FTP? This could be helpful to a lot of our visitors.

Ian: actually httpcity has over 20,000 files, it could be as high as 50,000. I don'r recall off the top of my head though.

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Jason M. DesRoches
Co-Founder / Business Development
Big Resources Network
jason@123webmaster.com
ICQ: 17947522

[This message has been edited by Jason (edited 07-05-2000).]

[ivonnieda]

Jason:

I will be glad to write that artical on FTP's, but if everyone who has a different FTP would e-mail me some of the info on it:
Name
Download location
Comments
ETC

isaac@123webmaster.net
Thanks http://talkboard.123webmaster.com/ubbhtml/smile.gif



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Isaac
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Big Resources Network
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[Jason]

Hey Isaac,

Can you start us off here by posting the various FTPs that you know of? After then we can try to see what features each has, and see how they stand up against eachother. I think trying to read the httpcity directory will be one good test of an FTP's strength.

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Jason M. DesRoches
Co-Founder / Business Development
Big Resources Network
jason@123webmaster.com
ICQ: 17947522

[Ian]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jason:
I think trying to read the httpcity directory will be one good test of an FTP's strength.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I second that http://talkboard.123webmaster.com/ubbhtml/smile.gif
hmmm, over 20,000, no wonder AceFtp couldn't hack the pace..hehe

I'll start....
AceFtp = FAIL
WS-FTP = PASS



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Ian
Web Development - BIG Resources Inc
ian@123webmaster.com
BIG Resources.com (http://www.bigresources.com)
ICQ: 25828668

[ivonnieda]

Here's the list:

<OL TYPE=1>
WS_FTP
Cute FTP
FTP Discover
Coffe Cup free FTP
Crystal FTP 2000
Freeway FTP
FTP Works
LapLink FTP
</OL>

These are the FTP clients that I am familiar with. All of these FTPs are freeware, and are available for download. I willNOT comment on which I think is the best...after all I must maintain a reporter's focus in this http://talkboard.123webmaster.com/ubbhtml/smile.gif



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Isaac
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Big Resources Network
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[Jacob]

Jason,

Ian is referring to loading the root httpcity dir, where all member directories reside. Thus how many members httpCITy currently has = number of files being loading (99% of them). 1% = index.html, faq.html, etc...

I use ws_ftp, however I do have experience with the following:

<A HREF="http://www.zdnet.com/downloads/stories/info/0,,00098W,.html" TARGET=_blank>FTP Explorer
</A>

Company: Alan Chavis
Version: 1.00.01
Size: 661.60 KB
Downloads: 138,673

It uses a windows explorer-based interface.

Regards,




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Jacob Wheeler
Co-Founder / Web Engineer
Big Resources Network
jacob@bigresources.com
ICQ: 390147 (http://www.icq.com/390147)

[Jacob]

Oh Isaac,

Do you want a little review from me? or are you going to just grab the description from the above link?



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Jacob Wheeler
Co-Founder / Web Engineer
Big Resources Network
jacob@bigresources.com
ICQ: 390147 (http://www.icq.com/390147)

[Jason]

Jake:

"Do you want a little review from me? or are you going to just grab the description from the above link?"

We're doing more than just "little reviews" and the publisher's own words with these reviews. I want to see how each FTP stands up under heavy duty use, check their speeds, their faults, evaluate their interface, and discuss their features. I'd like to reveal everything there is to know about the FTP. So when you do your review, leave no feature unturned!

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Jason M. DesRoches
Co-Founder / Business Development
Big Resources Network
jason@123webmaster.com
ICQ: 17947522

[This message has been edited by Jason (edited 07-05-2000).]

[ivonnieda]

You got it Jason!
It would help if anone who has exprience with a FTP not metioned above would send me an e-mail or post it here and I'll ad it to my "evaluation" list. http://talkboard.123webmaster.com/ubbhtml/cool.gif

Let me know if there is anything else you would like me to do.

...and Jacob, if you have any comments on ws_ftp or FTP explorer that you would like to would like to contribute, that would be great.



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Isaac
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Big Resources Network
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ICQ# 71401549

[Jason]

Isaac,

To my knowledge cute FTP can't chmod! It's ben a while since I used it, but that's what my memory tells me. If I'm rightm, it's got some serious problems.

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Jason M. DesRoches
Co-Founder / Business Development
Big Resources Network
jason@123webmaster.com
ICQ: 17947522

[Jacob]

Okey dokey.

I'll get you a list of everything I like and dislike about ws_ftp, and ftp explorer.

ws_ftp will be the easiest since it's what I use all the time, however it does have it's problems http://talkboard.123webmaster.com/ubbhtml/smile.gif

Maybe these reviews will change some of the programs we ourselves use, when compared to others.

I'll be in touch http://talkboard.123webmaster.com/ubbhtml/cool.gif



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Jacob Wheeler
Co-Founder / Web Engineer
Big Resources Network
jacob@bigresources.com
ICQ: 390147 (http://www.icq.com/390147)

[Jason]

I just wanted to let everybody know that because of the post that I am making now, this has become the first "flaming folder" on the talkboard. So not only have I posted more than anybody else, but I have also hit this milestone first. http://talkboard.123webmaster.com/ubbhtml/biggrin.gif

Toodles

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Jason M. DesRoches
Co-Founder / Business Development
Big Resources Network
jason@123webmaster.com
ICQ: 17947522

[This message has been edited by Jason (edited 07-06-2000).]

[Jason]

oops, it's "more" than 15. Well, this one did it.

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Jason M. DesRoches
Co-Founder / Business Development
Big Resources Network
jason@123webmaster.com
ICQ: 17947522

[whkoh]

I use FTP Voyager from Rhino Software (http://www.rhinosoft.com). It's one of the best and it has a clean interface and is highly customisable.

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Koh Wei Han
Network Engineer
Contact: whkoh@apexmail.com , whkoh@mailandnews.com , whkoh@020.co.uk

[jollyfactory]

I've tried, ws ftp and found it difficult to use, cute ftp has many good features but the built in Coffee Cup html editor ftp program looks really nice and has all the features you would ever need.

[TheKman]

Is there an appreciable difference between the LE version and the PRO versions? I am currently using LE it seems to work OK? Also, is there a way to make this client go to a particular sub folder on the local drive every time it is launched?

[whkoh]

The Pro version obviously more features, since you pay for your copy. The LE version is free and has limited features.